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flowrs4opheliaIt's getting painful to type these episode numbers. So near the end. :'(
— This episode wasn't always effective, but even in parts that didn't work so well I could see what it was going for and I think it was a noble attempt. For people to be calling it "filler" is just incomprehensible to me. Come on now. Just because this is a character-driven show so this episode focused on the personal drama doesn't mean there isn't a bigger picture. There's a frakking HUGE bigger picture. Or did everybody just not notice the entire reason for the Final Five to be taking a vote about whether to stay with the humans or not ceasing to have a heartbeat on that baby monitor?
Ever since we found out Six was pregnant I knew the only reason for her and Tigh's relationship to ever be written was probably to make them the representative Cylon/Cylon parents in order to show what it means if Cylons can actually reproduce, and then I'd figured for a while since "A Disquiet" that Six was probably going to lose the baby to prove that there isn't any hope for that after all. They could have established this in a much more removed, purely plotty way. They could have squeezed the whole Ellen-Tigh-Caprica story into half an episode. Yeah, if they wanted to treat their characters as nothing more than plot devices. Instead, because this is BSG, they tried to show this in a way that answers the question "Why should we care?" Though I'd expected and even dreaded it was coming, I never expected that Caprica's miscarriage would break my heart so much. Even though it may have started out just as something that the writers needed to take things to a certain point, her relationship with Tigh has come to feel like more than that. There were certainly scenes involving this storyline that I didn't really care for, but I can still appreciate that they made an effort to have this episode work on some higher level than just making sense and giving answers. It's a DRAMA SERIES.
I know different fans watch this show for different reasons, so lots of people will disagree with me. Personally, there was a time when nothing bored me to tears as much as more frakking Final Cylon theories because I just found it hard to care much about a character I didn't yet know the identity of. LOL. Though it would certainly suck either way, I would much rather a few things still not get tied up very neatly and make perfect sense plot-wise by the end of the show than for me to feel like I didn't emotionally experience it along with the characters because the entire focus at every minute was on forwarding the plot.
— I liked the several parallels to older episodes I noticed in this one. First, when the door of the Raptor opens all we see first is Ellen's crossed legs, which is the same way she was revealed the first time she came to Galactica after being thought dead. Then, after Starbuck asks him if he's seen Boomer yet, the way Tyrol firmly and unhesitantly says "No" and immediately follows it with a shot is way too close to the exact way he's reacted before when Lee asked him if he ever thinks about Boomer to be unintentional. (Take note: You can tell when Lampkin is lying if he isn't wearing his sunglasses, and you can tell Tyrol is if he drinks a shot right afterwards. Haha.) And not to mention one of the great redeeming moments in this otherwise underwhelming episode...
"Good to see you again. That's Boomer." Holy crap. I don't really know what I was expecting when he finally saw her again, but it wasn't that. I frakking looove it. It echoes when Athena warns Tigh "That's Boomer" when she boards the ship in "The Eye of Jupiter," except this time they have even better reasons not to trust her. And somehow the line makes it sound like he is not only deducing that it must be her but knows instinctively that it is. That he would somehow be able to pick her out as not just some random Eight even if she didn't make herself known is a notion I've entertained while imagining how them meeting again could happen, and leave it to this show to work with an idea like that without making it ultra-cheesy.
Why did I only start loving this ship so much when it became so screwed up and impossible? Haha.
— Like pretty much anyone, I really can't understand why Tyrol would vote to go.
— I was glad to see Ellen return a little to the bitchy, self-centered, manipulative character I always loved to be annoyed by. She's still "human" and there should be some constant traits in her character since the beginning as well as her and Tigh's relationship. I like that their marriage has evidently always been a little chaotic and screwed up even if very loving at the core.
— It's getting scary how hard Adama is hitting the booze and painkillers. Damn.
— The use of Cylon technology to save the ship not only symbolizes the overall kind of progression the story is taking but was the perfect thing to emphasize in this episode. The groaning of the Galactica we keep hearing throughout is practically like this foreboding sign that lots of shit is going to fall apart if the Cylons and humans don't stay together and the Five shouldn't get so cozy with their ideas about procreation on their own yet.
- "Liam. Short for William." Excuse me...I need a moment to go get a tissue......
I will now see how much I can avoid all the inevitable negativity in the Kara/Lee communities since I'm 80% certain in my prediction now that their relationship will not start to be resolved until the last three episodes but will be and it makes an optimist feel rather alienated and depressed. LOL. Or maybe I'll just go write some meta about why RDM so obviously ships Piloticians and all the hostility is unreasonable...
— This episode wasn't always effective, but even in parts that didn't work so well I could see what it was going for and I think it was a noble attempt. For people to be calling it "filler" is just incomprehensible to me. Come on now. Just because this is a character-driven show so this episode focused on the personal drama doesn't mean there isn't a bigger picture. There's a frakking HUGE bigger picture. Or did everybody just not notice the entire reason for the Final Five to be taking a vote about whether to stay with the humans or not ceasing to have a heartbeat on that baby monitor?
Ever since we found out Six was pregnant I knew the only reason for her and Tigh's relationship to ever be written was probably to make them the representative Cylon/Cylon parents in order to show what it means if Cylons can actually reproduce, and then I'd figured for a while since "A Disquiet" that Six was probably going to lose the baby to prove that there isn't any hope for that after all. They could have established this in a much more removed, purely plotty way. They could have squeezed the whole Ellen-Tigh-Caprica story into half an episode. Yeah, if they wanted to treat their characters as nothing more than plot devices. Instead, because this is BSG, they tried to show this in a way that answers the question "Why should we care?" Though I'd expected and even dreaded it was coming, I never expected that Caprica's miscarriage would break my heart so much. Even though it may have started out just as something that the writers needed to take things to a certain point, her relationship with Tigh has come to feel like more than that. There were certainly scenes involving this storyline that I didn't really care for, but I can still appreciate that they made an effort to have this episode work on some higher level than just making sense and giving answers. It's a DRAMA SERIES.
I know different fans watch this show for different reasons, so lots of people will disagree with me. Personally, there was a time when nothing bored me to tears as much as more frakking Final Cylon theories because I just found it hard to care much about a character I didn't yet know the identity of. LOL. Though it would certainly suck either way, I would much rather a few things still not get tied up very neatly and make perfect sense plot-wise by the end of the show than for me to feel like I didn't emotionally experience it along with the characters because the entire focus at every minute was on forwarding the plot.
— I liked the several parallels to older episodes I noticed in this one. First, when the door of the Raptor opens all we see first is Ellen's crossed legs, which is the same way she was revealed the first time she came to Galactica after being thought dead. Then, after Starbuck asks him if he's seen Boomer yet, the way Tyrol firmly and unhesitantly says "No" and immediately follows it with a shot is way too close to the exact way he's reacted before when Lee asked him if he ever thinks about Boomer to be unintentional. (Take note: You can tell when Lampkin is lying if he isn't wearing his sunglasses, and you can tell Tyrol is if he drinks a shot right afterwards. Haha.) And not to mention one of the great redeeming moments in this otherwise underwhelming episode...
"Good to see you again. That's Boomer." Holy crap. I don't really know what I was expecting when he finally saw her again, but it wasn't that. I frakking looove it. It echoes when Athena warns Tigh "That's Boomer" when she boards the ship in "The Eye of Jupiter," except this time they have even better reasons not to trust her. And somehow the line makes it sound like he is not only deducing that it must be her but knows instinctively that it is. That he would somehow be able to pick her out as not just some random Eight even if she didn't make herself known is a notion I've entertained while imagining how them meeting again could happen, and leave it to this show to work with an idea like that without making it ultra-cheesy.
Why did I only start loving this ship so much when it became so screwed up and impossible? Haha.
— Like pretty much anyone, I really can't understand why Tyrol would vote to go.
— I was glad to see Ellen return a little to the bitchy, self-centered, manipulative character I always loved to be annoyed by. She's still "human" and there should be some constant traits in her character since the beginning as well as her and Tigh's relationship. I like that their marriage has evidently always been a little chaotic and screwed up even if very loving at the core.
— It's getting scary how hard Adama is hitting the booze and painkillers. Damn.
— The use of Cylon technology to save the ship not only symbolizes the overall kind of progression the story is taking but was the perfect thing to emphasize in this episode. The groaning of the Galactica we keep hearing throughout is practically like this foreboding sign that lots of shit is going to fall apart if the Cylons and humans don't stay together and the Five shouldn't get so cozy with their ideas about procreation on their own yet.
- "Liam. Short for William." Excuse me...I need a moment to go get a tissue......
I will now see how much I can avoid all the inevitable negativity in the Kara/Lee communities since I'm 80% certain in my prediction now that their relationship will not start to be resolved until the last three episodes but will be and it makes an optimist feel rather alienated and depressed. LOL. Or maybe I'll just go write some meta about why RDM so obviously ships Piloticians and all the hostility is unreasonable...
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Date: 2009-02-21 02:00 pm (UTC)Re: Chief and Boomer--that was such a romance novel move for him to instantly recognize her and I loved it. Hee. Although in recognizing her, he sorta turned her in, which is interesting and keeps it from being too cheesy/sappy.
Oh and Shipperfey is the only one I've seen with a good rationale for why Chief wanted to go (basically to not bring danger to the humans). The bar scene with him and Kara reminded me of his instant no to Lee but also to their interaction in the mini when he tells Kara about Lee's "death" and she asks him if he's heard anything from Boomer. I like those circular references so much.
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Date: 2009-02-21 10:55 pm (UTC)That part really got me, as well as Ellen screaming that Saul loves Adama more than anyone else.
I'm glad Anders is waking up, and I too was mystified as to why Tyrol wanted to leave, but I think it's probably due to the arrival of Boomer. He just doesn't want to deal with that whole mess. LOL
It's getting so....close....