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flowrs4ophelia- How funny was Tyrol's confusion when trying to talk about the Cylons' and the humans' technology? "Our technology is far superior to ours. I mean..." I love Tyrol and It's good to have him back and snapped out of his really intense phase.
- It was somehow surprising seeing Tigh and Six being so...affectionate. And the same time surprisingly not that weird or icky. Their relationship, since I guess that's what it really is after all, didn't exactly get much development, and I'm assuming it's because the relationship itself isn't really the point. But they can actually be kind of cute.
- "We believe her to be dead." "OMGZ it's a her!" LOL. Lee.
- That scene with Laura running into Bill after jogging was so sweet. After a while I just had to yell at the screen, "Get married!" LOL. The way they handled finally getting these two together in every sense felt very right and earned. There's only so long that your sense of duty can give you enough to live for. You have to let yourself have something to help you feel like getting out of bed in the morning. And brushing your teeth. And getting dressed. And doing your log or whatever. When we see Laura jogging, she's already realized this and finally gotten up from the floor feeling some motivation to do something with the last days of her life, and meanwhile we see Bill stopping in the middle of brushing his teeth and just tiredly looking at his reflection like You know, I really, really just don't feel like it today.
And because I can't seem to do a post about any episode without mentioning the music, I didn't think it was possible for the Roslin/Adama theme to sound any more beautiful and moving than it has in the forms we've already heard it in, but how about that.
- It's interesting how the scene with Kara and Gaeta can be paralleled with that scene in season 3 when she sits with him in the mess and chews him out. He comes there and finds her sitting alone. After Gaeta was a supposed traitor, nobody wanted to eat with him either.
- So...what the hell is Anders up to these days?
- That surprise about Nicky was pretty crazy. As soon as Cottle told Tyrol this, my sister thought about it and said, "It's Hotdog. Nobody else works," and my friend and I looked at her like she was on crack. I don't know how the fuck she called that. LOL. So maybe when they wrote that hilariously random scene in "A Day In the Life" when Hotdog is complaining of a rash in a certain area and Helo says "Hope she was worth it, buddy," they were just giving us some establishment that Brendan does get around sometimes. Hahaha.
- Okay, if I was paying close enough attention and got the gist, Baltar is basically denouncing God now? Lately I've liked a lot of speculation I've seen about how a big theme in the end of the show will be free will winning over destiny, and I can see how this might eventually tie into that, though in more of a "We don't need God" than a "Frak God for abandoning us!" way. Is there much point to human existence if God is just going to intervene and give us a plan to follow? Isn't the essence of being human having the freedom to control our own destinies, even if it means we fuck things up so bad that every known habitable planet gets nuked and it's our fault? Is there some way we can survive and some reason to survive anyway?
I'm starting to think that quote used a lot about how parents have to die for their children to come into their own actually applies to the idea of God and all his children. If humans need a lucky break and some prophecy to save them every once in a while, are they really such an impressive creation? Were they raised that well? Am I just trying really hard to apply my own beliefs to this until it fits? Haha.
(And this is why Kara is going to choose Lee even though she and Sam are probably connected in some destined way that resounds through multiple cycles of tiiiime and blah blah. Ahem...)
- Why exactly is this one called "A Disquiet Follows My Soul"?
- This was a great episode, but already I'm a lot more excited about the next one. I've been rewatching a lot of old BSG lately and realized how much I miss when the show was sometimes optimistic enough for the characters to have those feel-good moments of being larger-than-life Big Damn Heroes. Kara flying herself off the red moon inside a Raider with her callsign written on the wings like a flag on a stolen pirate ship. Adama jumping the Galactica right into the atmosphere of New Caprica so they can launch Vipers while it falls like a rock. Apollo doing the Luke Skywalker routine to fly right into and blow up that Cylon base in "The Hand of God." So I'm keeping my fingers crossed for there to be a lot of general awesome ass-kicking by characters who haven't had the chance to be awesome in a while. If anything is going to call for Lee going back into Apollo mode, it's some asshole starting a mutiny on HIS DAD'S DAMN SHIP.
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Date: 2009-01-24 02:01 pm (UTC)The parallelism of the Kara/Gaeta scene. I like that and think it's something the show does quite often and very successfully. It makes it seem like they had a plan all along and plotted things far in advance, even if they didn't.
I was pleased with A/R and happy for the shippers. Last week I was pretty intolerant of Bill's dramaqueen emoting and Lee's insecurities, but this week I was amused by Bill's fatigue and Laura's aerobicizing. I think you could argue that many of the characters were disquieted. They're all so troubled and this was foundation for what's to come for sure.
Previews looked awesome eh? KARA'S GOT A GUN!! And 4.5 is shaping up to be a real return to her badass self. Me love.
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Date: 2009-01-24 03:40 pm (UTC)See, I got from the last scene that sense of optimism you mention you missed from earlier episodes. Possibly because the entire rest of the world was going so crazy, I'll admit, but to finally see the two of them reach this point and to hear that elusive second portion of the Roslin and Adama love theme blossom out that way... Oh, and the variation for the scene in which she is jogging was absolutely gorgeous; that "making of" video is really cool on several different levels, mostly because there was the chance to hear more of that cue.
I also found the alliance between Zarek and Gaeta to be interesting. Both are fallen characters (Zarek's corruption and Gaeta's self-deluding corroboration on New Caprica as seen in "The Face of the Enemy"), but are doing what they firmly believe is right, and with good reason. Yes, we've gotten to know some very cuddly Cylons over the course of the series, but they are still responsible for the near-genocide of the human species and the trust that we the audience are sometimes willing to extend to a Cylon isn't necessarily reflected by the rest of the fleet.
Gaius denouncing God. I was really curious to see where this is going; it was interrupted of course by Tyrol and Hotdog going at it (funny, I was just idly thinking about when we might see Hotdog again just before this episode).
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Date: 2009-01-24 04:25 pm (UTC)The role of religion in BSG fascinates me (and rightly so, since I come from a theology background). Mr. Bee and I were discussing this last night, in fact. I don't think the message so much is that religion is crap and that it has to be burned away for people to evolve, but rather that approaching religion a certain way is the most dangerous thing about it. If you're married to a particular view of religion, or a literal interpretation of scripture, and then things don't work out or it turns out your belief was false, you're totally screwed. That's where Laura is right now. If your idea of God and the divine or whatever has no built-in flexibility, then you're crusin' for a brusin' as they say. It won't take much to break that kind of faith, and once it's broken, you're in freefall.
And Kara's choosing Lee over Sam the Destiny Boy feels like the classical debate between free will and predestination. And oh yeah, I am ALL about that free will. ; )
"If anything is going to call for Lee going back into Apollo mode, it's some asshole starting a mutiny on HIS DAD'S DAMN SHIP"
LOL--LOVE IT. I think we are headed for some serious action (hopefully on multiple levels...)
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Date: 2009-01-25 08:45 pm (UTC)LOL, I like that description.
I don't think the message so much is that religion is crap and that it has to be burned away for people to evolve, but rather that approaching religion a certain way is the most dangerous thing about it. If you're married to a particular view of religion, or a literal interpretation of scripture, and then things don't work out or it turns out your belief was false, you're totally screwed.
I like this idea. I would definitely be disappointed if the overall message of the show is that religion is a purely negative and hindering aspect of any society that doesn't do anything but divide people and give them false hope, and I don't think Ron Moore means to ultimately show it that way. I think Baltar's doubts right now could be the beginning of a lot of characters finding a way to adapt to change, though not necessarily discard everything they once believed in, while others who can't do that won't be able to handle where things are going.
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Date: 2009-01-26 12:24 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-01-24 07:02 pm (UTC)I think Tigh and Six's relationship is probably mostly based on the fact that they have a child. But maybe there will be some deleted scene in which Tigh demonstrates that he's willing to try for an actual relationship. I couldn't help being touched by the idea that he's more willing to pursue something real with Caprica because he just gained a lot more closure on losing Ellen.
(By the way, I'm very nervous about what that chick in sick bay is thinking about screwing up with that baby.)
I hope you're already prepared to be in the rough minority of liking it if they're actually going in that direction with the God question. I'll like it, but I won't be able to handle all the butthurt theists. I'd be annoyed to see fandom divided even more by Jesus. The more I think about it, it is possible that they will come up with some scientific explanation for everything, even the temple of Apollo, and the more I think about it, I'm pretty sure I'd be disappointed by that. The only thing in the show I'm almost sure is a result of divine providence is Starbuck, though I have obviously considered theories for why she couldn't be. I don't know, it seems to me like there will be something spiritual about her, but I can't see it meaning an entirely good thing for the character. Just...because. Like her character is headed in some...superhuman-tragic-hero direction.
Or she'll just survive and have babies with Lee.
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Date: 2009-01-25 08:56 pm (UTC)I'm theistic and I don't see why I would be "butthurt" by such a conclusion. I mean, I don't think there's anything intensely anti-religion about the idea that sometimes we need to pick ourselves up instead of doing nothing for our sick children but praying, or that we're not just stupid, weak, and incapable children who can do absolutely nothing remarkable to get through a crisis on our own. If anything, I'm fearing I'll be in the minority while a bunch of Cavil fans are disappointed that the religious characters don't get proven to be stupid and obnoxious.
the temple of Apollo
You mean the tomb of Athena? Or the Temple of Five? Or the Arrow of Apollo? LOL.
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Date: 2009-01-27 03:55 am (UTC)The more I think about it, though, they have the right to be disappointed since it's highly rare that anything cool is OPTIMISTICALLY allegorical about faith. I still think the show might be, but on a personal level I would obviously connect more with we're not just stupid, weak, and incapable children who can do absolutely nothing remarkable to get through a crisis on our own.
Did I REALLY say "Temple of Apollo"? I am ever-fixated!
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Date: 2009-01-27 03:49 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-01-28 03:27 am (UTC)I was wondering too. Sam/Kara is probably my favourite ship (and it's so doomed, I know) and I miss them together.
Oh, and I agree on the Tigh/Six. I was definitely "don't TOUCH him, bitch" in "Relevations" but now I'm really mellow about them, eh.
That's funny how you ask about the episode title, because I automatically attributed it to how depressing this show is lately. There are no real moments of lightheartedness, not enough to overcome the fact that there was "Frak Earth" written just a bit ago on Galactica's walls. I seriously miss those moments, and I'm counting on the fact that since this series is ending, they have to cram some not-so-happy stuff in there so they can round it off with a lot of epic awesome. :D
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Date: 2009-01-29 09:10 pm (UTC)Yeah, like I said, it's easy for me to accept the Tigh/6 thing for now because I don't think it's meant to be a big thing even if their child is ultimately going to be important, and anyways I suppose weirder things have happened on this show (coughBoomer/Cavilcough). Especially now that it looks like we could see Ellen again, I don't think Saul and Caprica is the love story we're supposed to be invested in. Haha.
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