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VI.

One evening Albus comes to call at Severus's quarters, which is a little unusual. As Severus waves his wand around the room lighting some more candles to accomodate the company, Albus says, "I've been thinking long and hard about things. I believe I'm going to have to ask my old friend Horace to come teach here this year. I trust you remember Professor Slughorn?"

"Of course," Severus says a little absently. Then once he has a moment to think about it, he turns around to look straight at him. "But he was a Potions teacher."

"Yes."

His eyes go a little wide as he suddenly understands; there is no other reason he would come here to tell him about this right after coming to his decision.

"You mean you're letting me have...?"

"The Defense Against the Dark Arts job, yes," Albus says.

Severus looks at him a long time, and has to sit down just to think. It is so strange. After all this time he doesn't know how to feel about it. Over the several years he's been at Hogwarts, he has realized that maybe Albus was right about his reasons to not give him the job. Maybe without him even realizing it, his interest in teaching about the Dark Arts was just a remainder of the undesirable inclinations that led him to become responsible for the thing he so deepy regretted, reflecting a dormant but still-present desire to become something greater and more impressive.

After everything he did in hopes of acquiring power, so certain that it would be the answer to all of his difficulties and make everything better for him, and learning once it was too late that the cost was far too much, he is now just a humble teacher. That is probably the most he will ever be, and teaching Defense Against the Dark Arts will make no significant difference in his life. He has perhaps finally accepted this, as much he will ever be able to. There will always be that other part of him for which it's not enough. He will always be a man with a mark on his arm that burns. But at least he understands this now. Perhaps that was all Albus was waiting for.

Thinking of something, he asks, "The job is...most certainly cursed?"

"Oh yes, most certainly," Albus says. "We shall only expect you to last a year doing it, one way or another. But one year, I hope, should be enough."

"Enough for what?"

"To teach the children as much as you can before this war becomes even more of a threat to them and they find themselves in real danger and needing to defend themselves. I would like to be more optimistic, but I'm quite sure everything is going to get much worse before it gets better. I need someone I know will do the job right, and to be honest, I have few other options."

Severus sits still for a long moment. "...Since when did you have so much confidence in me?"

To his surprise, Dumbledore laughs lightly. "To keep from becoming corrupted by the Dark Arts again by teaching a class? After all the other immensely important things I've trusted you with by now, I think it would be rather ridiculous not to think you can handle this...for just one year, that is," he adds.

It takes Severus a moment to realize he was making a joke.


VII.

It does not get easier. The long, grinding time, rather than healing, seems to wear away at him more and more, so that the weight of it all only becomes harder to bear every day.

Harry Potter has now narrowly escaped death several times, not without some of his help, and he keeps growing older. But to him, it might as well be that nothing ever changes. The boy will always be without a mother.

He cannot forget it, at any moment. Over so much time it has turned into a constant bitterness at himself he always tastes. How sorry does one have to be for something like this, and for how long, for him to have finally paid enough for it?

And now he has learned that he'll have to take another life. Albus came back from some secret mission he left for on his own with a curse in his hand, and in a way he didn't understand, Severus felt for the first time like he genuinely hated him for being so careless. And he told him then what must be done, so infuriatingly calmly, and all he wants to say to him is "God damn you." After knowing him this long, without a doubt ending up knowing him the best of anyone, doesn't he understand? He cannot bear the weight of that responsibility, not along with everything else he already carries. He can't do it.

But he is now bound by more than one vow. His protection has extended beyond only the Potter boy in ways he never expected. He supposes he can't even be called a boy anymore, and nor is Draco Malfoy. But they are still young. Too young. Undamaged. But Severus Snape, his soul is already ruined anyway - why shouldn't he do it?

Albus seems to know exactly what thoughts are still bothering him for the next few days when he is suddenly so quiet with the overhanging, overwhelming magnitude of what he will have to do. As if thinking it will make him feel better, he says to him one time he comes to see him in his office, "I would not have asked you to do this if I didn't know you can. I know in the end, you are always willing to do what is necessary. You have the kind of bravery for that."

"How do you know?" he asks. "This is different from the other things I've done for you. I am not...I can't be very afraid of..."

"You don't fear death?" Albus finishes when he can't seem to. "Isn't that very brave in itself?"

"Not if it's because it's too late for me...For my life to get any better. The only thing I can be frightened of is all of this being for nothing, making no difference, after everything I've done."

"Some who feel as much remorse about things they've done as you might be afraid of paying for the way they've lived their lives after death. Of punishment."

"Anyone living with as much remorse as I have is already being punished. What difference does it make?"

Albus goes silent at what he says, and just looks at him like he is suddenly seeing him in a new way. Severus becomes uncomfortable with his eyes locked with his like that, and looks away.

Albus sighs a little, thinking, and then says, "You know...sometimes, Severus...not always, but sometimes...I think you are a little too hard on yourself."

He continues to sit still at the chair at his desk, saying nothing. Albus rises from the seat across from him and stands looking at him as if waiting for a final word.

"I can do it," Severus says quietly, closing his eyes a second.

Albus puts a firm hand on his shoulder. "Thank you. My good man...Sometimes I really cannot imagine what the Order would do if we didn't have you on our side."


VIII.

The only thing he could be frightened of. The only thing.

Harry Potter will have to die.

He feels...he doesn't even know. His life has become protecting life, even though he has no love for it. He doesn't even like Potter. He hates him. But how can it be that all along this has been a lie, an illusion of purpose? He has been a pawn on a chess board. It feels like something inside him is laughing. You are the fool, Severus. Lily Evans is dead and gone. It's over. Your stupid, miserable life of service cannot make any difference. What will you do now if not this, when it's all you have?

But there is something else about it that's tearing at him, a feeling he can hardly make sense of, as he looks in disbelief at Albus now knowing what he has done. Severus always said it himself: He agreed to answer to him instead of Voldemort from then on, to do whatever he says, to do whatever it takes, but it doesn't mean he has to like it. It doesn't mean he and Albus have to like each other. It doesn't mean they're friends.

And yet right now it feels like so much has been lost in just a brief moment. A flash of green in a house in Godric's Hollow that lasts only a second and rearranges the whole world. All over again. "My good man..."

But has it really all been manipulation? Albus told him to meet him here in his office tonight, that he was going to prove his trust in him. Why tell him, why trust him with this information, if he knew the truth could turn him against him? You do not tell the pawn they've been a pawn right before you need them most. He even acted surprised by Severus's reaction and asked, "Have you grown to care for the boy, after all?"

Because of the two of them it was Albus, unthinkably, who underestimated love. He has never understood as much as Severus thought he did. It may not make any sense, but one's general compassion for all of humanity can be nothing compared to their love for just one person. This is the very essence of love: knowing someone as unique, as more than just anyone, as something special. If he is such a despicable person for caring about nobody but her, then all of the human race is loathsome filth because of their love.

All this time he kept his word that he would help him. He has been Dumbledore's man for sixteen years. He has stayed at Hogwarts where he can keep an eye on Harry and stepped in to help keep him out of harm's way, even though just looking at him made an old, intense hatred start burning in him again from the very beginning. He has become a spy. He has taken an Unbreakable Vow. He has agreed to use the Killing Curse and take Albus's life before anyone else can.

But what it was all for even Albus didn't recognize. The two of them, once on opposing sides in a war, Slytherin and Gryffindor, have learned to judge each other not so harshly, and even to admire certain qualities in each other. But still Albus only ever saw him and tried to understand him with his own narrow view, through the eyes of those in his House, applying only his own views of the world to make sense of his.

And when Severus does what he hates and conjures his Patronus, absolutely certain it is still the same form even with how long it has been since he needed it, the mistake Albus made becomes clear in the figure of the beautiful, glowing doe that leaps gracefully and weightlessly across the office.

For Lily. Always only for Lily.


IX.

Godric's Hollow. He has always been afraid to come here before, even if he knows it is as much as he deserves: to see all of the ruin and devastation he had a hand in. It is for the same reason he did not go to her and her husband's funeral. But he has never realized before that perhaps in this way, he never allowed himself to truly say goodbye.

The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death, it says. Perhaps he can believe it. Severus sinks down to the ground in front of the stone, his robes soaking up the snow under his knees, and realizes he brought nothing to place on her grave. His hands feel so empty, so useless, only still stained with the blood and powerless to undo what's been done.

What can I give you, Lily? What can I do now? There is nothing I can give you. Your one child must die. You gave your life so he could live, but now he has to die.

A chilling breeze blows through the graveyard, rustling the leaves of trees until they sound almost like voices. And some kind of understanding seems to seep into his mind like the freezing cold dampness now gathering at the bottom of his robes. Harry is his mother's son. She gave her life for the good it could bring, and now he will do the same. This is what he could never understand, but what even James Potter must have. To him, there was only always the wrenching question Why? This whole world is such an endless affliction to him, and has only ever treated him coldly, except for the time that now seems so brief when compassion was always there for him in her eyes like warm, healing light from the sun. He cannot help it. He doesn't feel all the pain of others in the world like a phoenix can. He cannot see the nobility of suffering for all of humanity, the pure and the wicked all together, so many nameless faces only ever looking at him and then looking back away. But Lily could.

And what she did for her son he would have done for her. She probably never knew. All that time he was her friend he sometimes resented her a little, too. It didn't begin after he lost her, it was nothing she ever did, just him, always the same pathetic story of self-inflicted misery even since back then. Deep down he always carried a completely unreasonable anger and bitterness. Because she was everything lovely in a lovely package, liked by everyone, and could have anything, and she could be the center of his life and the only source of warmth and contentment in it without him being the center of hers. Because what she gave him with her friendship, never more than friendship, was everything and all he had and never enough. Because it felt so wonderful and hurt so much, and all he wanted sometimes was not to feel so insipidly weak. She probably always saw it and yet never did, in that way she had of only seeing the best in people. That was until the day he finally lashed out at her only for trying to defend him from Potter's usual bullying, all that bitterness coming out in a way that sounded real because it was, even if the hateful word he used was not from his heart, and then she looked at him like this was finally too much. It just hurt too much for her to keep trying to see what she knew was there in him but hardly ever visible on the outside anymore.

He would have died for her, but of course that would be easy compared to other things. He didn't appreciate her enough. And she'll never know. He can never tell her now how much she was so much more than enough and it was worth all the misery.

It is like the grief is new all over again, the shock he already processed. He suddenly feels physically sick with the guilt, and even as the tears pour it does not feel like a relief as much as a difficult effort to pull out something that can't be removed no matter how much he cries. The words I'm sorry, I'm sorry fill him like a million needles driven in him all over, but they stay behind his gritted teeth. He cannot even begin to say it, not in a way that will ever be enough, not now. Seventeen years of a life spent with no freedom from paying what he owes her, and he still has more to ask her forgiveness for besides just her death. It feels like he has only begun to repent.

With cold, slightly trembling hands he reaches into his robes and takes out the page of the letter to Black with Lily's writing on it that he took. He kisses it and makes a third vow: to never again wish he could forsake ever having known her and loved her, no matter what. He will not envy the one who killed her any longer. For someone who clings so desperately to life, he has no idea what life is. A smile from someone that seems to reach inside you and make every nerve more relaxed, that feels like the only thing happening in the world at the moment. The girl hitting your arm playfully whenever you say something mean, trying to point out to you the cloud in the sky that looks like a turtle, and not knowing you're watching as she stares off in another direction just to take in how her deep green eyes look in the flickering light from a fireplace. God, she was so beautiful. And still so young. The loss of just one life out of everyone in the world can make it feel like an entire city has fallen. The Dark Lord has no idea.

Maybe love is hell, but he will boldly walk through it for her, feel the burning of the flames for the whole of his remaining life.


X.

He is not completely aware of what he says to Harry Potter as everything starts to slip away. The room around him seems hardly there. There is only the pair of eyes he knows so well.

"Look...at...me..."

And he forgets the pain where the snake's fangs sank in, and drifts instead to somewhere else - a memory. One time in a hallway when Sirius Black tripped him and he fell to the floor, and the next thing he knew he was looking deep into her concerned eyes above him as she dropped to the floor at his side, putting a hand on his arm as she asked if he was okay. He can almost feel her gentle touch now, the way it made his bitterness and anger subside right away. He remembers how the sound of her laugh was almost like a touch itself, the brushing of a soft feather, and he cannot see anymore how it ever mattered that he could never have her completely, never actually hold her. Other ways he knew her love have come to have so much more permanence than touch, and are still with him now.

As he feels the weight starting to lift, he lets the green eyes fill him completely, and himself become set free in them. Death cannot touch them. They will stretch on forever, lasting outside of time and never fading, and from death they will protect him. They penetrate him completely, the only thing that can see straight into the deepest part of him, stripping away all else until there is nothing left but the final judgement. And he is waiting and ready to finally be released from the burning chains, released from himself. He is not afraid.




Fin.

Date: 2007-08-10 12:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alenar.livejournal.com
Lovely job with this.

Date: 2007-08-10 02:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flowrs4ophelia.livejournal.com
Thank you for reading!

Date: 2007-08-10 12:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maidoforange.livejournal.com
Wonderful job. You really got into Snape's mind.

Date: 2007-08-10 02:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flowrs4ophelia.livejournal.com
Thanks for reading!

Date: 2007-08-10 01:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] abit-obsessed.livejournal.com
Amazing job. Your characterization is amazing.

Date: 2007-08-10 02:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flowrs4ophelia.livejournal.com
Thank you very much.

Date: 2007-08-10 02:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vdkapenguin.livejournal.com
For some reason I think I would file this in my mind under "the kind of fanfic that I could never write." Your understanding of this character is somehow both true to Snape and optimistic, humanistic; we effortlessly see from his perspective why his views on love and life are so permanently wretched, but not in a way that is too unfamiliar to us. It's hard to criticize Sev's motives for being Dumbledore's spy when his conviction and devotion are not any weaker for the fact that he is doing it all for the love of one person and no one else.

The quote that the title reminded me of:
“Hell is yourself and the only redemption is when a person puts himself aside to feel deeply for another person.”
-Tennessee Williams

Date: 2007-08-10 03:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flowrs4ophelia.livejournal.com
Wow, yeah...that quote fits pretty well.

The thing is I am not at all a Snape apologist; I realize perfectly well he was a wholly unpleasant and unlikeable person. I think this fic may come off as trying to excuse everything that can be held against him just because it's written with his own limited perspective on the whole situation. But as I was writing I think came to see more than I had before how much the reasons to still think of him as a bad person are such trifles in comparison to the reasons to respect him. Because I found that none of those parts of who he is were really important enough to address that often in the fic. I show a brief scene of him being mean to a couple students and give a hint as to why he feels like tormenting somebody at the moment, and he can be kind of rude and nasty to Dumbledore in his early years teaching, but that's about it. (Well, I'm sure if there were more scenes with Harry in them I would have had to write more mean-bastard!Sev. Haha.)

But I don't even know if I can say I agree with all of the points of view presented in this. Some parts of it almost go into the realm of "the unreliable narrator" - which I suppose is fair after 7 books of seeing Snape only from Harry's biased POV. When you beta-read this and I said the title has two meanings that are ironically different, I meant that it can be applied to Dumbledore's and Snape's opposite views on love. D says that never feeling love is hell; Sev thinks that love itself is hell. You can certainly see where they're both coming from, but still...BTW, I feel like this point isn't as easy to see as I meant it to be because some people (mostly on ff.net) seem to be getting something completely unintended out of the part of the fic that explains that. It's supposed to be quite sadly ironic that Snape assumes Dumbledore doesn't know anything about how horrible love can actually make life, when he actually can understand Snape's regret very much and would see practically the same thing in the Mirror of Erised as him (though obviously a different person still alive). Was that...at all clear in the story? :/

But anyway, I think I can't be given too much credit for my understanding of the character, since my explanation in this story for how he decides to continue helping the Order just so Harry can die is really nothing but making shit up. Just like the way I wrote Dumbledore is out of my own thoughts of Oh no, but he couldn't REALLY have just been using him like that...COULD he? God, no! LOL.

Date: 2007-08-10 09:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vdkapenguin.livejournal.com
I don't think this fic is "apologetic" at all, simply because it's more explanatory than justifying. The reasons you show for Snape's actions are just believable and straightforward, and since it's from his point of view, there is so much less emphasis on his general nastiness than on the remorse he should feel for the much greater mistakes in his life. Rather than making Snape suddenly start acting like a nice guy, you simply expose him limited - or perhaps merely different - moral view. I really liked how this fic kind of jarringly challenged the slanted Gryffindor dogma that dominates a lot of the books by showing Dumbledore's almost naive misunderstanding of Severus' good side.
I definitely got the irony from that point when Snape had bitter feelings about Dumbledore, not having any clue that Albus has also experienced a lot of pain and self-hatred. It made me realize how much Snape had to learn at that point, and I got the impression that his feelings about Dumbles - and maybe himself as well - were different from then on. If people don't get that...Well.

Date: 2007-08-16 02:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mshepnj.livejournal.com
I think this fic may come off as trying to excuse everything that can be held against him just because it's written with his own limited perspective on the whole situation.

I didn't take it that way, personally. My take on human nature is that we are all flawed in one way or another. Nobody is a perfect saint or an irreemably evil (except Voldemort). We all have different experiences in life that inform who we become. Making mistakes, even girevous ones, is part of life. What we learn from them and how we let them dictate the course of our lives afterwards, that's more important. Life isn't really black and white - it's a whole scale of gray.

What makes Severus Snape fascinating is that he such a reluctant hero but ultimately makes sacrifices to protect someone with whom he's at odds. He is flawed. He's not the male equivalent of Mary Sue. Yet, he maanges to be courageous and do the right thing despite his less honorable traits. His fall and recovery, his journey and genuine remorse make him my favorite character. However, he's still "a nasty piece of work."

Date: 2007-09-07 04:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] catherinecookmn.livejournal.com
Actually, it's not an apology at all. It's fleshing out what JKR wrote but could never acknowledge consciously.

She tries to pretend that Snape never changed, never grew -- yet she has Dumbledore say (oh-so-patronizingly) that "I think we sort too soon", his own tacit admission that Snape HAS changed, HAS grown, and that it's not all about Lily any more (even if Snape still wants to think that it is -- just as he tries to tell himself and Harry in OoP not to wear one's heart on one's sleeve).

Date: 2007-08-10 04:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] randomneses.livejournal.com
Just to tell you, I'm crying my eyes out right now and I can't really see because my eyes start to burn when I cry and my eyes are closed as I type this so there may be a tpo or 2 or 5 but this was just absolutely beautiful.

Nothing else to add.

Date: 2007-08-10 04:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flowrs4ophelia.livejournal.com
Aww. *hands you lots of tissues* Thank you so much. <3

Date: 2007-08-10 05:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] angelm7.livejournal.com
Really good fanfic. I love how you kept Snape in character, also it was well written. Excellent job! :)

Date: 2007-08-11 12:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flowrs4ophelia.livejournal.com
Thanks for reading!

Date: 2007-08-10 06:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] reverdybrune.livejournal.com
Oh, this is gorgeous. Poor Severus. Poor Harry. Poor Everyone.

I love this bit, in particular:

But has it really all been manipulation? Albus told him to meet him here in his office tonight, that he was going to prove his trust in him. Why tell him, why trust him with this information, if he knew the truth could turn him against him? You do not tell the pawn they've been a pawn right before you need them most.

Just, ow. I think you've nailed both of them in this, how Severus wants to hate Albus but is still shocked despite himself. No easy way for either of them. :-\

Great job. *goes to find tissues*

Date: 2007-08-11 12:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flowrs4ophelia.livejournal.com
Thank you very much!

Date: 2007-08-10 06:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wikkidgothbabe.livejournal.com
i had to read the whole thing before commenting, of course...

BEAUTIFUL!!!
*needs a tissue*

Date: 2007-08-11 12:07 am (UTC)

Date: 2007-08-10 07:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 1hotapple.livejournal.com
Just...brilliant.

I like the way you deal with the end in particular - the eyes, the lifting of the weight, his loss of fear. It's beautiful and intensely peaceful without being in the slightest saccharine.

Lovely.

-c-

Date: 2007-08-11 12:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flowrs4ophelia.livejournal.com
Thank you very much. And your icon is hilarious! :)

Date: 2007-08-10 09:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mysduende.livejournal.com
This is really one of the better post DH Snape ficlette's I've seen. Doesn't border on sappy - and you have an accute understanding of all of the conflict and torment overwhelming Snape. My only slight critique would be to suggest using 'Dumbledore' more than 'Albus.' Past fanfic often has Snape referring to DD as 'Albus' but according to JKR in DH - Snape is not on a first name bases with the Headmaster. Which I found interesting. Shows that they have a very strange sort of relationship. Not as close and fatherly as everyone had seemed to expect.

I would love to see more post DH Snape fic from you. You've got a compelling, thoughtful writing style.

Date: 2007-08-11 12:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flowrs4ophelia.livejournal.com
Thank you very much. :)

Did he call him Dumbledore in DH? I didn't remember him ever addressing him. That is interesting, considering McGonagall calls him Albus. But I suppose even Harry never did. And now that I think about it more, there are some ways that's more in-character for Snape.

nicely done!

Date: 2007-08-14 12:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lostlo.livejournal.com
that was so very much better than I expected as I clicked on the link in spoil me dh... I was really just trying to kill some boredom at work.

In the many post-DH snape debates, I find myself defending not Snape as a character, but people who like his character (if not him as a person), and see him as the most important or interesting part of the series. It's not that we're blind to the fact that he's a jerk, or that he has "bad boy appeal" or whatever ridiculous thing JKR said (I can't believe she would even say that about her own character).

I think that people who are really fascinated with Snape, or any character really, is that they can relate to him in some way - they have felt, or known someone who felt great regret, unrequited love, or struggled to change their soul.

Your fic touches at the heart of all my reasons for "defending" snape as a character, if you want to call it that (it's not really correct). It's not that I approve of Snape, but I understand Snape. I have loved, and not lost, but utterly destroyed that love by my own incompetence. A bitter and misguided past can lead you to do horrible things, and there is no excuse for doing them in adulthood... and that lack of excuse, feeling fully accountable for your actions, can be very painful. You feel the pain of knowing that you've done wrong, and at the same time suffer the loss of the only person who could ever give you relief - and you know it's your fault all the while.

Snape had a reason for everything he did, even if it wasn't a good reason, and so did I. You absolutely captured everything I imagined snape must be feeling, and it makes me feel better knowing that he found some comfort in the end.

Sorry if I can't more eloquently or clearly critique your writing (which was above fanfic average), but it hit me very emotionally. And you certainly deserve credit for that.

And now it's time to go home! Thanks for making my work day much more meaningful.

Re: nicely done!

Date: 2007-08-14 03:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flowrs4ophelia.livejournal.com
Thank you for the lovely comment! I'm glad (and rather...taken aback) to hear that someone who can actually relate to the tragedy of Snape's life could identify that much with this fanfic. It was certainly my intention when writing this to not excuse his actions, but hopefully just be able to adequately show things through his eyes and allow people to gain some understanding of him.

I think you're right that a lot of the appeal of his character is that many people can relate to him in some way. I think I am at least much more moved by the whole Snape/Lily idea than many people are (lots of people just think it's creepy or too angsty) because I've been the one in love with somebody completely unattainable a couple times. I actually love the way everyone seems to react to Snape differently, and how even though the story's done and we have all our answers, the fandom is still divided in their opinions about Snape and still debating over him. I can understand why some people are saying, "He was a jerk, I still hate him," but I personally just can't hold anything against him, possibly because I'm just the kind of person who's a little unusually forgiving and accepting of people in real life, and I really identify with Lily in that way.

Regarding the sort of negative comments JKR makes about him, I was actually thinking of writing a whole post in my journal with some thoughts about that, because I really think a lot of those things she's always said have just been out of her desire to keep him a mystery. Sometimes, after such a long time of speculation about Snape and his loyalties, I think we've forgetten that we're not supposed to like him and that he's actually trustworthy was supposed to be a big surprise. And even now, I think it's definitely possible to like Snape too much, or at least in the wrong way. For JKR to now be saying "I got you, Snape's good actually, Snape's a sweetheart" would just take away from the brilliance of the kind of character she created. He's not supposed to be easy to form an opinion about, and DH gave us no simple answers about him.

Re: nicely done!

Date: 2007-08-14 10:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lostlo.livejournal.com
I don't expect JKR to say that snape is wonderful, but I was specifically thinking of an interview I read where she chalked fans of the character up to "bad boy appeal" or something like that. I found that to be a bit dismissive and possibly demeaning to fans, but in retrospect, she may have been talking about Draco, and it is probably true of a lot of fandom.

One of the things I've always thought about the HP series (since I started to like them, which wasn't until about book 5) is that you can't really enjoy them - or at least, you can't enjoy them like my family does - unless you've had certain experiences. There are a number of possibilities - regret, unrequited love as you mentioned, but especially dealing with lots of death, or undergoing great personal change via tremendous suffering. I am in recovery from substance abuse, and so I and most people I know have had a lot of experience with the last two. Say what I may about the books (and I was quite the HP-hater back in the day, I must confess), JKR really knows how to write about feelings, loss, and trying to make sense of intense suffering.

I think that the series is the first "myth" to come out in a long time, as defined by Joseph Campbell, and I really wish he had been around to read/comment on them. The coming-of-age tale never really went out of fashion, but the reluctant, flawed hero and the extreme suffering necessary to temper one's character somehow went out of fashion in the modern age (I blame Disney!!). Plus, the series has what we talked about with Snape - many characters and situations that can be used, in effect, as mirrors for the reader. For instance, I relate to Snape's regret and mistakes, but I'm absolutely Luna Lovegood to the core. :P

I'll just stop myself now from a ten-page hero-journey rant. But, in essence, I really enjoy looking at the books on a different (not better, or deeper, just different) level than many people, and I really enjoy talking to people who see aspects of the series in a similar way. In fact, I came to love the books through endless discussions with my parents; I must have spent about 10 hours on the phone with my stepmom in the month before book 7 came out, and I almost had to fly home so we could talk about it while we read. I'm a huge dork when it comes to HP, and everybody knows it... including you!

Date: 2007-08-20 01:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] intrepidxcix.livejournal.com
this is so beautiful. my favorite line "Maybe love is hell, but he will boldly walk through it for her, feel the burning of the flames for the whole of his remaining life."

Date: 2007-08-20 03:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fairy-tale-echo.livejournal.com
Here via [livejournal.com profile] snapenews and I just wanted to say this was utterly lovely. I really enjoyed it, especially the interaction between Snape and Dumbledore. That can be tricky and you got it really note perfect, especially that last scene between them. And, ah, Snape burning everything because he HAD to and then thinking how he had nothing left! Not only was it very in character and ouchy and true and plausible but it's a great actual plot filler for DH. I love that! :) Anyway, thanks for writing this, I really adored it!

Date: 2007-08-27 01:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] whitestar.livejournal.com
*sob* this was fantastic! One of the best fanfics I've read about Snape. Snape is so complicated and is one of my favorite characters. You gave me some things to think about in his character that I hadn't thought about. And best of all you gave more justice to his dying moments than the quick brush-off that JKR did, and which I still despise. Thank you for this wonderful piece of work *sob, sniffle, sob*

Date: 2007-09-09 02:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] red-day-dawning.livejournal.com
Still crying. Thanks - this is a really moving insight into Snape's psyche & motivations. *sniff, sniff*

Interesting reading the comments above & your replies, too. I think part of the appeal of a character like Snape, to a wide & varied group of readers, is his complexity. I really enjoy the way your writing doesn't minimize this complexity. It really is one of the best Snape fanfics I've read so far. *sniff*

Date: 2007-09-09 02:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] red-day-dawning.livejournal.com
Sorry, sniffing too much to ask in above post - can I friend you, so that I can follow your fic updates?

Date: 2007-09-09 09:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flowrs4ophelia.livejournal.com
Sure you can friend me, please do. :) And thank you very much for your comments.

Date: 2007-09-18 08:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ginny8dandelion.livejournal.com
You are a fantastic writer. I LOVE your take on Snape and Dumbledore, both of them are spot on IMO. Thank you for writing such an intellectual piece. For example, your scene with Snape, Wormtail and Bella was one of my favorites because you took a scene that was totally off the radar of what JKR wrote and made it totally believable. I loved the moment when Bella calls Snape "Sev" and he freaks out.
Also, this line:
"And what she did for her son he would have done for her. She probably never knew."
gave me shivers. Again, thank you for such an amazing piece of fiction.

Magnificent.

Date: 2007-09-20 09:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] auditrixlectrix.livejournal.com
I have been coming back to read this beautiful, beautiful fic every day for a week. I love how you show Snape's difficult progress out of his fear and self-pity, so that by sections IX and X....

He kisses it and makes a third vow: to never again wish he could forsake ever having known her and loved her...

...he cannot see anymore how it ever mattered that he could never have her completely, never actually hold her.


I particularly love the way the last two sections echo each other with their images of flame, of a touch on the arm, of the memory of particular moments, of acceptance.

Beautifully written and full of insight. Bravo.

Date: 2007-09-22 04:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] firefly124.livejournal.com
Beautifully done. I feel like there's so much more to say, but I don't have the words right now.

Date: 2008-04-17 09:17 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] arcanetrivia
Amazing. Just utterly grand.
Edited Date: 2008-04-17 09:19 am (UTC)

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