Damn, this issue is really blowing up all over fandom! It's not LiveJournal's fault. They're being whipped into cracking down by the higher authorities in response to recent accusations that they are aware of and are allowing illegal activities to be condoned on their website. In fear of the entire domain being taken away, of course they're going to make some efforts to please the powers that be. It is weird, though, that they're being all nazi-ish and deleting masses of journals that are only loosely related to these other ones...At first I thought it was a little alarmist that people were worried about homophobia being involved, but now I'm not so sure if we're safe with anything even slightly controversial as the subject matter of the communities. Bemoaning that LiveJournal has done nothing in the past about creeps on LJ is not constructive; it is absolutely correct to say that talking about doing something illegal is not illegal, and I think the recent hypocricy on this issue is simply in response to some kind of legal crackdown that is the main culprit of all of this. There are some scary people out there, and they are on the internet, and LJ is not the cops. I've heard that they've been really polite to people writing to them about all this, even offering ways to recover lost entries. The tricky thing is that a journal can be deleted simply on the basis that a suspicious item is listed on the interests, because that makes it something you can search for, as in, "I want to do something illegal and don't know how or where to do it, so I'm going to search for it" and that's iffy. I don't think this is a fight we can win. The moderators of the website don't have any control over what's lawfully allowed on the internet, no matter how unfair it is. I just hope they stop recklessly deleting journals witch-hunt style.
No, it is not an authority that is making them do this, it's one of their sponsors that is pressuring them to do this. They're worried about a law suit, not actually getting busted by the law and getting all of LJ shut down...I think.
The fact that they're taking action against actual illegal stuff if not bad, of course. It's that the way they're doing it is just damned idiotic, and people who are not doing anything illegal are getting taken down with it. Rape survivors who list "rape" on their interests have gotten their comms and journals deleted. The organization that originally complained about content they found on LJ, from what I've heard, seem like a bunch of freaks who probably would think that pornish_pixies should definitely have been deleted, illegal or not.
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Date: 2007-05-30 08:56 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-05-31 05:21 am (UTC)It's not LiveJournal's fault. They're being whipped into cracking down by the higher authorities in response to recent accusations that they are aware of and are allowing illegal activities to be condoned on their website. In fear of the entire domain being taken away, of course they're going to make some efforts to please the powers that be. It is weird, though, that they're being all nazi-ish and deleting masses of journals that are only loosely related to these other ones...At first I thought it was a little alarmist that people were worried about homophobia being involved, but now I'm not so sure if we're safe with anything even slightly controversial as the subject matter of the communities.
Bemoaning that LiveJournal has done nothing in the past about creeps on LJ is not constructive; it is absolutely correct to say that talking about doing something illegal is not illegal, and I think the recent hypocricy on this issue is simply in response to some kind of legal crackdown that is the main culprit of all of this. There are some scary people out there, and they are on the internet, and LJ is not the cops. I've heard that they've been really polite to people writing to them about all this, even offering ways to recover lost entries. The tricky thing is that a journal can be deleted simply on the basis that a suspicious item is listed on the interests, because that makes it something you can search for, as in, "I want to do something illegal and don't know how or where to do it, so I'm going to search for it" and that's iffy. I don't think this is a fight we can win. The moderators of the website don't have any control over what's lawfully allowed on the internet, no matter how unfair it is. I just hope they stop recklessly deleting journals witch-hunt style.
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Date: 2007-05-31 06:12 am (UTC)The fact that they're taking action against actual illegal stuff if not bad, of course. It's that the way they're doing it is just damned idiotic, and people who are not doing anything illegal are getting taken down with it. Rape survivors who list "rape" on their interests have gotten their comms and journals deleted. The organization that originally complained about content they found on LJ, from what I've heard, seem like a bunch of freaks who probably would think that